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May a Judge invoke and judge his own invocation?

 

I render this judgment in three parts.

1) No, thanks for asking.

2) The judge of a current judge's invocation should be the previous player. The judge of any of that judge's invocation is still the current judge. This is a judicial system, not rotational dictatorship.

3) A judging judge could judge as much judging as a judging judge could judge judging. Wait, that was the woodchuck answer.

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  • By jay at 05/19/2008 - 15:01
 
 

And in such light, I ask that the previous judge gerryblog stamp approval on answer 2.

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  • By jay at 05/19/2008 - 15:02
 
 

Are you even going to pretend to have a rule-based argument supporting this?

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  • By Chuck at 05/19/2008 - 15:03
 
 

I always thought this was assumed, but the rules actually go against me by saying "any player may".

But if you'd like to see my reign of terror, you can vote to override this.

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  • By jay at 05/19/2008 - 15:05
 
 

I'll judge any of jay's invocations as an informal compact between he and I, but I think Chuck's right insofar as such a compact doesn't really exist in the rules and that the judgments I'd make wouldn't really have force except insofar as jay chose to ratify them officially.

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  • By gerryblog at 05/19/2008 - 15:12
 
 

As per our game custom, we ignore any judgments that are obviously against the rules. I am looking at this one, jay, and am officially putting you on the shit list for this irregular judging hi-jinx.

At least you could pretend to be judging (see gerryblog for an excellent example of this) - if you entertained us in the process we might go a little ways towards humoring you here.

Me and my people will be ignoring this ruling.

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  • By Aaron A Aaronson at 05/19/2008 - 15:38
 
 

gerryblog, I know you liked your turn on the bench, and obviously yopu can do a much better job than jay, but please don't give in to his fantasy-based garbage here. You know full well that this is NOT in the rules, and we now have a reasonable voting framework that allows us to change rules we don't like.

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  • By Aaron A Aaronson at 05/19/2008 - 15:46
 
 

I'll judge any of jay's invocations as an informal compact between he and I

My people will ignore any rulings from someone who is not the legally appointed judge.

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  • By Aaron A Aaronson at 05/19/2008 - 15:48
 
 

I withdraw this invocation. If this is not allowed, I invoke judgment on whether I can withdraw this invocation, which I then allow.

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  • By jay at 05/19/2008 - 17:29
 
 

Well played, sir.

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  • By Chuck at 05/19/2008 - 17:31
 
 

Although, allowing a player to withdraw his own invocation after it has been judged [warning: mixed metaphor ahead] opens up a whole other kettle of thorns. If you don't like the judgment you got, just withdraw the invocation!

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  • By Chuck at 05/19/2008 - 18:00
 
 

No worries, Chuck, as I shan't be withdrawing mine. I'm curious to see what the judge really thinks about this question, when he's not just being silly.

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  • By Aaron A Aaronson at 05/19/2008 - 18:04
 
 

(This was actually one of my backup plans in case it looked like I was going to be overruled last turn.)

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  • By gerryblog at 05/19/2008 - 18:08
 
 

At least you could pretend to be judging (see gerryblog for an excellent example of this) - if you entertained us in the process

Agreed. Judge gerryblog, hall of fame. Such contorted faux-logic! Such tireless campaigning from an officer of the court to tolerate rulebreaking. A masterpiece of counter-intuitiveness.

I can see that I'm going to have stiff competition when the Minister of Propaganda election happens.

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  • By ctmf at 05/19/2008 - 19:56