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So ruled. Abstaining players do not count against the total, so the proposal passed, 6 of 9.

bsp, good points both.

"the question will be decided by the player who has most recently concluded their turn who is not a party to the transfer." This *is* the current judge, unless they're a party to the transaction.

Also, this rule's point limit in its current form will be superseded by rule 208, since it is lower ordinally.

And... you should reword the last part of the rule to make it very clear that this point infusion is a one-off deal that occurs only immediately following the passage of the proposal.

I've always been in favor of new judges ascending when the next proposal is posted for vote, to cut down on opportunities for self-judging.

The rules don't mention beginning, either. They say: "the player preceding the one moving is to be the Judge." AAA is therefore correct: because ctmf has finished his turn, he is no longer "the one moving." This must be either me or flatluigi.

We can't just go around claiming that a turn has begun if the player whose turn it is isn't playing. The definition of a turn is pretty clear that action is involved.

Of course, if the player whose turn it is isn't playing, then it can't that player's turn. That's the crux of the issue precisely: is it flatluigi's turn (not begun) or my turn (begun)?

I am Judge. My turn is over, therefore I am now the previous player, without regard to exactly who the current player is. It suffices to stipulate that there exists some player who is the current player, and that that player's turn has begun.

We can't just go around claiming that a turn has begun if the player whose turn it is isn't playing. The definition of a turn is pretty clear that action is involved. In any case, someone needs to make a proposal to codify when turns start and end soon.

ctmf, you are wise. Some very fair rulings and good precedents being set.

Mm. You're right, shelleycat. He voted in 319, which was posted on 6/27. It's been less than a week.

I stand by my judgement, but suspend it for 48 hours, the commonly accepted waiting period. If flatluigi shows up, it's his turn, otherwise gerryblog's turn begins.

[previous comment edited for clarity]

*Judgement suspended for 48 hours*

Wheras the rules now regulate joining the game, and provide for resigning from the game, I find that player status is regulated. Rule 116 therefore does not permit any other methods of adding or removing players from the game.

I also find, however, that the rules are unclear or silent as to what should be done when the player whose turn arrives shows no sign of particiaption. After considering game-custom and the spirit of the game, I judge that flatluigi has voluntarily forfeited the game per Rule 113. flatluigi may rejoin at a later time without penalty per Rule 314.

This decision was simplified by the length of time since flatluigi has participated in the game. Had it been only a day or two, it would have been a much more difficult question to judge.

The current player is gerryblog.

PROPOSAL TEXT:
321/322. Currency

Points are fully transferable. Any player may transfer any number of points to any other player at any time by posting a notice to that effect in the Point Transfer Forum established for this purpose, provided said point transfer would not put the receiving player within eleven or fewer points from the victory condition. Transfers may be conditional upon the completion of specified act(s) by the receiving party; in case of conflict, the question will be decided by the player who has most recently concluded their turn who is not a party to the transfer.

The total number of points required to win the game will be raised to 300.

All active players will immediately receive 100 points.

gerryblog, you can't begin your turn until flatluigi is declared a non-player by the judge. The game just won't work if everyone goes around declaring this and that. You'll also note that playerhood is regulated by the rules, so you can't just remove people under 116.

In any case, since flatluigi has not yet begun his turn (and he is the next player until he is officially removed from the list), the judge here is backseatpilot. Your comment shows why claiming ctmf is the judge makes no sense, yet you still insist on doing so. Are you trying to derail the game?

320-291 * (6/9) = 19 (rounded)
jay, ssg, and AAA all get 10 points too.

ctmf, I was waiting to see how things shook out before I voted. It'll pass if no one does anything crazy. Which clearly means *I* should be your stand-in voter.